I think Tim would be send brand new scans of one’s photo in order to his web site, and will post one to link to the newsgroup.
Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Hands
associations of one’s users, (the latest Wingfields was explored fairly well, and you will even with my personal typo to the Howard friends, I actually do have the pedigree truthfully annotated here in RI) >>
I am not sure this might be an exact declaration. Really does their publication address the latest age group *prior* in order to John Russell exactly who e the parents out of Age Russell whom yards Sir Robert Wingfield ?
Re: ? Comyn spouse off Malise
We have next in order to fill out a number of the gaps you inform you forthe great-grandparents of Reginald le Cheyne. One of the primaryadditions stems from their paternal granny (NN on your own article) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de Moray), sister and you may coheiress out-of Freskinde Moravia out-of Duffus (their parents Walter de- Moravia and you may Euphemia ofRoss appear lower than). You have the concern on his maternalgrandmother: We keep she is actually Joanna de- Menteith, 2nd wife of Malise,Earl regarding Strathearn. This should no less than promote a close explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen out of Strathearn (partner successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the father, as well as Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed to possess Helen de Menteith, aunt regarding Joanna and you may spouse off Sir ColinCampbell off Lochow (d. bef May 1343).
Unfortuitously, In my opinion discover extra openings from inside the Muriel Keith’sancestry (see less than). On possibly additions advised into the tablesbelow, delight recommend of any listed disputes, or what documentationmight mean any mistake detailed.
I’ve openings both in ancestries, but ferociously because from Reginald.Having Muriel Keith, their particular higher-grand-parents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton
I’m not familiar with people files supporting the identification of the mate as Barbara Seton. If you have detailed any, delight advise.
step three Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander of /Fraser/ Chamberlain regarding Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/
Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (otherwise de- Brus), and had good child John identified as ‘nepos’ out of Robert _the_Bruce. It young buck are a young John, but not, rather than his heir. John Fraser, afterwards lord of Aboyne, try new young buck regarding an initial relationship (it spouse unfamiliar; I have this on expert regarding Andrew MacEwen).
3 Walter de Moravia (young buck out of Hugh de- Moravia, and Annabela off Fife) 4 Euphemia away from Ross (dau. out of Fearchar, initially Earl away from Ross and you will NN deBrus)
5 Malise, 6th Earl out-of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de- Menteith (young buck regarding Walter Stewart, Elizabeth out of Menteith and you can
Brand new consanguinity anywhere between Muriel Keith and Reginald ce Cheyne -proven to had been a-grandson regarding Malise, Earl away from Strathearn (d.1312) – ‘s the best proof (in the event that secondary) why these one or two individualshad one predecessor/ancestress in accordance.
I’ve openings in both ancestries, but ferociously for the reason that out of Reginald.For Muriel Keith, her higher-grandparents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander off /Fraser/ Chamberlain off Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN
Getting Reginald ce Cheney it is sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, 3 NN, 4 NN5 Malise, sixth Earl out-of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 and you can 8 NN
Re: Agnes Beler
Woodford, very early 15the century, into the Leicestershire. Elizabeth was this new d Villiers and you may Agnes Beler. Today, I would like to link Agnes in order to Sir Roger Beler, murdered of the Eustace de Folville, but I can not select one facts about her. Is someone assist?